Talk:Michael Jackson
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Many of these questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Michael Jackson.
Q1: Should the article mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim? (No.)
A1: No. The article should not mention reports that Michael Jackson was Muslim. Jackson had not publicly spoken about his exact religion in a number of years and only spoke about spirituality in general terms. The specific reports of a conversion ceremony for Jackson have been denied by his New York lawyer Londell McMillan.[1] They were also denied by Yusuf Islam/Cat Stevens[2] and Dawud Wharnsby[3] who were allegedly present at the ceremony. The Michael Jackson memorial service did not involve any Islamic rites. Without further details from his family or representatives, it will not be included in the article. Q2: Should the "Jacko" name be mentioned in the lead? (No.)
A2: No. The "Jacko" name should not be mentioned in the lead. Past consensus goes against such inclusion. The name is a derogatory term used primarily by US/UK/Australian tabloids. The slogan is discussed in the relevant section of the article. Q3: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer/blindness/liver disease/AIDS, etc.? (No.)
A3: No.
The article should not mention that Jackson reportedly had cancer, blindness, liver disease, AIDS, etc. Until such claims are confirmed by a Jackson representative it will not go in the article at all. These claims are largely fabricated by tabloids. Q4: Should the article mention that Jackson reportedly had a secret child called Omer Bhatti? (No.)
A4: No.
This claim was denied by Bhatti [4] and only a DNA test would resolve the matter. Q5: Isn't Jackson the seventh child of the Jackson family, not the eighth? (No.)
A5: No.
Marlon had a twin, Brandon, who died shortly after birth. This makes Michael the eighth child. |
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Contradictory information in Death section
[edit]Currently, the death section says:
Jackson died from cardiac arrest, caused by a propofol and benzodiazepine overdose.
…and then says…
Murray had administered propofol, lorazepam, and midazolam; his death was caused by a propofol overdose.
Which one is correct? Nosferattus (talk) 18:22, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Lorazepam and midazolam are both classified as benzodiazepines, so while both passages are technically correct they could use a rewrite to avoid confusion. 98.159.215.35 (talk) 19:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
main template image change suggestion
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Michael_Jackson_Dangerous_World_Tour_1993.jpg/64px-Michael_Jackson_Dangerous_World_Tour_1993.jpg)
I saw a pic on MJ's zhwiki main template and frankly looked better than that pic on the current main template on enwiki, so i think we can change that pic to this on the left. Coddlebean (talk) 08:05, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Opinions needed at MJ the Musical
[edit]Editors disagree about whether a Guardian review of MJ the Musical should be included in "Critical response" section of the MJ the Musical article. More voices would be appreciated. Thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 13:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Infobox Image
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Michael_Jackson_1983_%28cropped%29.jpg/66px-Michael_Jackson_1983_%28cropped%29.jpg)
The image in the infobox is low quality and grainy. I have found a good alternative to it, taken at (arguably) Michael Jackson’s peak. Shall we use this as the replacement?Wcamp9 (talk) 00:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- This looks doubtful as a public domain image. It seems to be a publicity photo and is probably copyrighted.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did not upload this, so I would not know the real licensing. For now, though, should we make it Jackson’s main image Wcamp9 (talk) 17:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not without verifying it is free of copyright. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- A Tineye search shows this photo appearing on Alamy as a stock image.[5] This means that it is almost certainly copyrighted. The image was uploaded by User:ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter who is now indef blocked, and the claim of public domain always looked dodgy.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Read the licensing for this image, the uncropped version:
- A Tineye search shows this photo appearing on Alamy as a stock image.[5] This means that it is almost certainly copyrighted. The image was uploaded by User:ThingsCanOnlyGetWetter who is now indef blocked, and the claim of public domain always looked dodgy.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:52, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not without verifying it is free of copyright. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I did not upload this, so I would not know the real licensing. For now, though, should we make it Jackson’s main image Wcamp9 (talk) 17:44, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/Michael_Jackson_1983.jpg/220px-Michael_Jackson_1983.jpg)
Wcamp9 (talk) 05:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I saw this, but it was almost certainly given the wrong license at the time of upload. It is very unlikely that a publicity photo of a major pop star would be public domain. At the very least, it would be copyrighted to the photographer who took it. Without a clear indication of no copyright by the photographer, it cannot be used. This looks like an image found in a web search that has been wrongly licensed, and the presence of the image on Alamy confirms this.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Grammar error
[edit]There is a dangling modifier in the "Artistry" section of this article - "he later said that as a small child, his mother would wake him whenever Brown appeared on television". This error can easily be fixed - I'd suggest something like "when he was a small child..." 173.95.86.246 (talk) 16:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Done You are correct, that's a dangling modifier. Fixed. Popcornfud (talk) 16:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Main Image Change
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Michael_Jackson_Dangerous_World_Tour_1993_%28cropped%29.jpg/92px-Michael_Jackson_Dangerous_World_Tour_1993_%28cropped%29.jpg)
I changed the main image of Michael Jackson to File:Michael Jackson Dangerous World Tour 1993.jpg. This photo is way better then the previous photo, which is low-quality, grainy and black and white. This photo is high-quality and color, along with showing Jackson during his most popular tour. Wcamp9 (talk) 18:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seek consensus first. I have reverted this change. GSK (talk • edits) 19:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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